Strumpy Shader Editor [Now Open Source]

Oh that's normal as far as I know, you wouldn't want a default texture set in the shader, you'd have to always carry that texture with the shader into every project its used if that were the case.

Setting textures inside SSE is really just for the preview's sake. To set textures properly you need to make a material to use the shader as you normally would, and do it there as you would for any shader/material.

 

Ah, okay, the light has dawned. So it's not enough for the shader to be dragged onto the material, I have to go in after and attach the texture in the materials editor in the regular Unity panel.

Okay, live and learn.

Question for you, now: I have a really nice shader defined based on the rim shader that came with the Editor. I'd now like to make the whole object partially transparent so things inside it show through, but I can't find the correct functions or settings I'm supposed to use for transparency. Is this something that has to be done using an alpha channel texture, or can I simply assign a transparency function to the diffuse somehow (or none of the above)?

Thanks again!

 

It's up to you. First you have to set the shader as transparent and for it to appear in the queue so it's rendered last over geometry. From there you can use a range or a texture an alpha a color. I'd have to go mess with it to see for sure, don't remember off hand exactly how it's done.

Edit: Ok yeah, the rest is just to set the blendmode, then whatever is controlling the alpha will control the transparency.


rename the file extension to .sgraph it wouldn't let me upload it unless I changed it to .txt.

 

So did anyone explain how to make emission affect lightmap?

Also what's the difference between clip and alpha?

 

i i want to increase the normal bump value im using shader fusion im wander if i know some one has do the same wiht this strumph but to work you will only have to increase the red and blue values or geen too?

 

ShaderFusion has it's own thread, you might have better luck asking Shaderfusion questions in there. But yeah, all three should be modified.

 

thanks

 

You knwo where is the threath of shader fusion becuase i saw one but it has to be with the beta and stuf is not an official one post?

chekc it out i made this shader in shader fusion looks cool
http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/34570-ShaderFusion-node-based-shader-editor-(Closed-Beta)/page6

Its down the page scroll it

Thanks i already find the post

 

That's the one, was made by the author so it's as official as you're gonna get.

 

Oh my god, what have I done.

 

Can't figure out how to make my object transparent using a transparency map.

 

I get

Error no matter how many textures I use if I also have this in my graph.

Even if i have only this, no other textures or anything, I still get the error.

 

You should really get a wiki for this project.
Would be very useful and users could contribute in an organized matter.

 

So just how would you go about doing the whole snow coverage type blending thing? I think I'm on the right track with worldnormals and splitting it up to only appear on a certain axis etc. but seem to be getting the blending effect above and below at the same time, which doesn't look right heh.

 

wrong image i have to reopen and show a interesting graph of skin shader some one gave me

 

Awesome!! Thank you, worked perfectly!


Oh and just to be annoying (sowwy!), don't suppose you know how the builtin shaders manage to use the specular effect inside the alpha do you? It seems like it should be easy but haven't yet been able to get the actual end result to be used (the actual bright specular effect). Is it something to do with the lighting graph or vertex one? Those two seem pretty alien to me.

 

It looks great, but theres some features that you've messed up

First UV2 does not work, it just gives the material a rainbow appearence, and second the preview mesh is always black, and you cannot preview the shader with textures on it, I used that a lot and now it's gone.

edit: never mind fixed problem 1

 

UV2 works, your object needs a second UV to be able to use it though.

Preview works but is only available on the Pro version of Unity, add temporary textures from the input window to see them in the preview, but as stated further up the page these aren't saved with the shader for obvious reasons.

 

OK thanks I got it working, except my shader is now bright pink wih an error "Shader error in 'Buildings\Standard': Too many texture interpolators would be used for ForwardBase pass at line 33"

 

Got that problem fixed, needed to be shader model 3 (not 2). But i'm stuck on how to add specularity to a diffuse texture

 

hi guys,

I'm trying to repair my shaders made before the Unity 3.2 release and can't find the MeshUV component from Inputs for specifying UV channel

any idea what we should be using/doing instead?

 

Finally found time to play around with 4.0b So far everything is working really well! Awesome work! Love the preview window! Love the speed! Love the corrected gloss naming! Love the UI

There's a few things I would love the preview window be modified though:
1. Please set the Near Z value of the preview window to 0.0001 or some value close to zero to prevent parts of preview object that are close to camera being clipped off
2. as 2dfxman1 mentioned.. Please add the ability to assign pan and zoom to other mouse buttons, depending on the users.. some people used to max some people used to maya, etc But heck I should be happy to have any
3. the option to flip rotation direction, as right now dragging mouse button up and down rotates preview object up and down respectively, but dragging mouse to left and to right rotates preview object right and left respectively. Its just a minor wish as compared to 1 and 2, but its just abit confusing and not intuitive.

As for new copy and paste. Is it possible to make copying nodes from one sgraph file to another also copies properties? It threw me off abit when I tried to quickly copy some of my old templates to form a new graph, and found out that they created many "not configured/Not Connected to valid Porperty" errors.

I would also love to eventually see a feature for right clicking on the node to select the entire upstream nodes/ or down stream nodes.

BTW, is ramp lighting example deferred compatible?

This is truly a great upgrade!
James

 

Hey stramit, I am still kinda stumped on this manual blending thing that you told me about... do you think you can show a quick demonstration of how to set this up... all I want in my shader now is for it to see black and white values from 0-255 cleanly... like for example for doing hair... and making sure you can get the soft look to it

Thanks a bunch

 

Seems to be for me (though lightmaps don't play nice with it, from what I've seen so far).

 

I've managed to complete my building shader, it has windows that can light up at night (a slider), shiny windows, an AO map and now slight specularity. Can a script control that slider to 'slide up' for night (using a real time sky)?

 

It should be able to, how.. is a question probably answered in the scripting references. But I think yeah it's entirely possible. Maybe check out the bundled Water effects that come with Unity? The pro water one uses a script to handle the reflections from what I remember, so yeah I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do it. Shouldn't even be "that" hard to do either.

Edit:
http://unity3d.com/support/documentation/ScriptReference/30_search.html?q=material

Yup, entirely possible!


The post below holds the correct answer

 

Yes, you're probably looking for http://unity3d.com/support/documentation/ScriptReference/Material.SetFloat.html

 

ah ok thanks, i was expecting a bleak 'no' lol, glad it can be done

 

Nah, those replies are reserved for the "lets make an MMO" and "can we have shadows in Unity free?" threads.

 

Alternatively you can go into photoshop and posterize the section of your lightmap that corresponds to your object.

 

Good morning everyone from Boston,

After playing with SSE 4.0, I truly love how fast it is to create a shader using this powerful editor. And as a result I would love to share my newer version of my NI Shader.

New Shader Features:

Additive Gloss (Texture): With this feature, you can use a mask (black and white of varying ranges) to define shinier areas of your model. With no texture, this will turn off...

Additive Strength: Changing this value will make the shine stronger, such as for shiny latex.

Additive Spread: This will also change the way the highlight will falloff. (added this as a preventative measure)


Next on the list:

-- Fully controllable Transparency Blending

 

awesome project

 

Congrats for SSE 4.0 MASSIVE thanks for your work, it's like you have the source license.
Any chance we see SEE opening surface shaders AND then constructs a graph based on them after parsing the instructions and then allow us to edit them from SSE. I'm really shy to ask you that, the SSE itself is a huge piece of add-on for unity. ♥♥♥

 

That would be an amazingly complex and difficult thing to do. Very cool, but trying to parse whatever random stuff someone (like me) throws into a shader and fit it into the available nodes would be a serious challenge.

 

I recently downloaded it and cant stop messing around with it. Love this tool. Except it seems to occasionally crash Unity.

Oh but I'm curious as to how to do 2 things.
Currently I modified the Rim Lighting graph that comes with the program so that it can have spec normal and diffuse maps. I noticed that the rim lighting runs along the normals of the geometry and not the new ones of the normal map (hope I phrased this right) In other words it lights it as if it were smooth in areas where the normal map is supposed to make it rough. Is there anyway to make it so the normal map effects the rim lighting?

And the second is I'm trying to do some form of faked SSS not sure how to do this, (I think I've seen it done with ramp lighting?) Anyone have any suggestions for methods on that?

 

For the first one, using the worldreflection with the normal input seems to work (from what I remember). For the second, I suppose something with emission would work for faking SSS and as you say ramp lighting too.

 

Thing is I don't know how to do ramp lighting, the ramp lighting graph that comes with the download only has a color node (obviously pretty new to the program) and the exported shader is kind of messed up.

oh and I fixed the first problem, didn't bother looking for a normal input on the fresnal node.

 

Earlier in the thread the author posted a video on how to do the ramp lighting. But I admit the lighting and vertex graphs don't seem as well understood as the pixel one.

 

Just looked through the topic and couldn't find said video... Mind pointing me in the right direction?

 

http://vimeo.com/20994055 it was in the beta4 announcement post. Also there's a ramplighting example that comes with SSE.

 

Need some tutorials on creating proper transparency(the one op told me for some reasons hid everything behind it, not just the object it was applied to. Also need a tut on creating refractions and other cool stuff.
I would create tuts but sadly my knowledge in shaders or SSE are 0.

 

There's a transparency example graph included (Distortion), take out the bits you don't need, leaves a basic transparent shader. just remember to check the settings menus and adjust those when making shaders, especially transparent ones, or they'll end up opaque.