Models

I'm I allowed to use models I downloaded from tf3dm in Unity?And then sell the game?

 

Why are you asking us? Ask TF3DM.

 

Yep, models that you've purchased elsewhere and come with a commercial license are ok to use in Unity. Unity as a piece of software doesn't mind where models come from.

 

Be wary though even if the model is labeled for commercial use. You may still need additional permissions from third parties. One good example is the BMW car on the site. It is labeled for commercial use, but you will still want permission from BMW.

 

in the human history nobody have been sued because of 3d model

 

Whether or not this is true does not change the legal status of some assets. There have been games that have been pulled from Steam over assets that belonged or were similar to other games.

Typically the order of proceedings is you'll receive a Cease & Desist followed by a lawsuit if you do not comply. One example of a project that had official resources from a Nintendo game and received a C&D was Super Mario 64 HD.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/31/nintendo-takes-down-super-mario-64-hd-fan-project

 

It is, without a doubt, 100% not true.

 

For OP:

"* All the models are uploaded by users, thus tf3dm.com is not responsable for their content."

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Why-7-Days-Die-Was-Removed-From-Steam-60086.html

 

I knew it was a zombie model but I couldn't remember which game it was.

 

isn't that nonsense? it is like somebody says you shouldn't make green zombie because I already have made it

 

No, it was the same model, not just looked like. The model was ripped.

 

It was ripped off from their game and sold in asset store which is the same thing that can happen in the site asked in the original post (possible illegal model available for free).

 

from an artist point of view
it is absolute nonsense
if someone tell me make a zombie for me , do I have to think about a zombie that doesn't look like any zombie? I search in the internet and take some references and make something like those references
but you may find a zombie exactly like my zombie

this is the same for animation it is like somebody says , why your character walks like mine why did you choose red for your background it was my idea

but if I make another super Mario it is a different story

 

There is a difference from making your own zombie that is in a similar style and outright stealing the asset from a game.

 

by the way these are 2 different zombies it is not the same model nor the same texture

 

From the featured article...

 

What is nonsense? In case you still did not get it was ripped off as in stolen from other game.

 

well I think it is just nonsense
I've no any idea why that guy told that story but this zombie has a different texture at least and this should be enough

 

this zombie has a different texture at least and this should be enough

 

By your logic I'm perfectly fine stealing Mario and changing the texture to make him mine, right?

 

Wow, so as artist you say it's ok to steal models as long as you swap the texture? I hope no one looks at your posts if you sell models in future or you try to apply for a job.

 

models are similar but I can see different poly

 

If I were an artist I would want to see his artwork more than ever now.

 

I say my opinion and I don't regret about it

the point is
How someone can accuse someone else
if I make a model and somebody clime this model is stolen how can I prove its not true?
specially in case of zombie anybody can make something like this
just type zombie model in google and see how much similar model you see

another example , if someone want you to make a known building you may make it exactly like the original
someone else has already made it like yours
he claims that you've stolen his model
how are you going to prove it's not true?
please answer me
and I have no idea why that guy told that story

 

similar model
I can find more
http://avxhome.se/graphics/stuff_3d/Rawn_Zombie.html

 

So...if you were to spend hours working on a model, you want someone to steal it and use it in another game?

Of course they can tell!! Have you ever made a 3d model? No two are exactly alike. The wire frame is different, the textures won't be identical, nothing will be exactly alike. I am sure that Steam took care to make sure it was the same model before pulling the game.

Similar is not the same as exactly alike. Take those two models into Maya and look as see how alike they are. Not only that, but some companies embed the models with a digital signature.

 

You know I was here back then when it happened. There were comparison threads around the net of the model and other stuff such as animations (which were identical IIRC). There were also a thread or two on these forums as the game was made with Unity and cause stolen stuff was sold at asset store. Just Google around and find out.

For making indentical stuff to other it requires a lot of luck for the meshes to match even close to 1:1. It's pretty easy to compare models and their random parts to check scales/dimensions, rigs etc. even if they would be slightly altered. Like if you make a building your windows probably wont have the same height and width aspect ratio as the other one. When you have several of these and non matching it's probably not the same.

 

they have at least different textures
it is just a humanoid model nothing more every humanoid model looks like the same

 

Right...prove to me that every humanoid model out there looks exactly the same, from the wire frame on up. Show us wire frames, lots of them. Opinion doesn't matter in a legal situation...show us evidence. Can't wait to see it!

 

so you say they compared them in a 3d app?

 

I've found one method using Autodesk Inventor. I wouldn't be surprised if other tools could do the same, but worst case you could simply write a script to compare them.

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-general-discussion/compare-two-3d-models/td-p/3488044

 

ok
there are some apps for creating humanoid or zombie models
we use them a lot the best one is this
https://charactergenerator.autodesk.com/

you can make human , zambies , etc

mixamo is another one

I can make a character with these tools and you may create one that exactly matches mine

by the way It's not free you pay to autodesk for the tool and technically the character is your artwork

 

Um, I think that both of those are very different than what we are talking about above. lol

The creator of those models, Autodesk and Mixamo, both sold them to folks to use in games. So you have the right to use them. If you make Bob the Adventurer using Fuse, and I make Bob, the base meshes are the same...and neither of us really owns the rights to those meshes, Mixamo (now Autodesk) owns them. You are just using a copy in your game and I am using a copy in mine.

So no...I could not sue you for making a Bob just like mine.

This has absolutely nothing to do with a custom mesh. I can't believe you don't get this..lol. You are pulling my leg, aren't you?

 

Okay. Make a character from Mixamo with the exact same position of every single vertex, every single bone, etc.

Honestly half the time I feel like he's either clueless or purposefully trolling.

 

I think it is the latter, sadly. It seems to be happening on other threads as well. Maybe someone is bored.

 

It happened to two popular games and Unity was involved. Do you really think they just watched a screenshot and threw DMCA takedowns notices and banned the asset author based on screenshots? Tripwire knew how they did the model, animations and all and could compare them to the sold asset wireframe, animations an so on. I'm wondering what type artist you are...

Like I said use Google, there is plenty of material about the case.

 

its nothing to do with mixamo or autodesk you can use their mesh and you can say it is my artwork
if you sell your character created by anything mixamo autodesk whatever , its legal
there are many base mesh in maya / mudbox
you may create a character topologically the same as mine because we used the same base

 

One that I would be very hesitant to want to hire?

 

You and I are not creating a model when we use Fuse. We are using their parts to put together a model. We do not own the rights to it and cannot sell it. Not at all the same.

 

Not according to Mixamo's license. You may use it in your product, but you may not resell it.

 

what are you talking about is this in their license agreement ?

 

No, you can sell a game with the model in the game. You cannot package up the model and resell it.

 

OK I never used mixamo though

 

From the link Ryiah posted: User agrees that standalone Mixamo Content that is not Embedded Content may not be resold, published or distributed to third parties, and such resale, publication and distribution of Mixamo Content that is not Embedded Content is strictly prohibited.

 

but this is not true about autodesk
you pay for it and the output is yours

 

LOL

Just your opinion, right?

 

no my experiences
update:
I mean I thought they are like others because of my experience with other tools not mixamo

 

I really doubt anyone is going to copy your autodesk character. Why would they? lol They can make their own. We are not talking about churned out characters...we are talking about a custom mesh made by one modeler and used in their custom game. The did not put it out there to allow folks to use it..it is their property.

 

Wow...good luck!

 

it reminds me cryengine