Source Control w/ Free Unity ignore files (Git, SVN, CVS)

[chbfiv]

#UPDATE: I assumed it would work for SVN and CVS
#but dreamora pointed out that they would have issues
#We use Git and currently have had no issues
#Git is also Rad, I dont use SVN or CVS anymore unless I'm forced.

#this is the git ignore file if you want to use the free Unity
# the ! negates an ignore, so you ignore everything in Library then
#un-ignore the metadata folder and those specific files
#use at your own risk.

#NOTE: this will cause your collaborators to re-import assets
# (previews and cache), but it seems to have no value to keep in source control

#I also wanted to note that Unity selling an asset server is retarded.
#We already have awesome source control systems that we know are safe and
#reliable. Why anyone would use the asset server is beyond me; why Unity felt the need to
#recreate a well developed tool seems greedy. Focus on your product not on making things
#more difficult for your users.

Temp/*
Library/*


!Library/*.asset
!Library/AssetImportState
!Library/AssetVersioning.db
!Library/BuildPlayer.prefs
!Library/ScriptMapper
!Library/assetservercachev3
!Library/expandedItems
!Library/guidmapper
!Library/unity default resources
!Library/unity editor resources
!Library/metadata/

[dreamora]

And this works?
Cause ignoring the library without the Unity Pro meta means that not a single dependency and as such neither scenes nor prefabs will transfer (naturally also no assignements on objects in scenes to other scripts or objects or assets)

[chbfiv]

You can see that I'm including almost everything in Library except the preview and cache folder (So I'm not ignoring the metadata). Our game is rather simple ATM however, so I would create a backup before you test it. I can't imagine it's perfect, but of course feedback is always welcome and it works great for me a few friends using Git.

[dreamora]

Ah sorry, missed that you reimported the meta behind there again, it somehow blended down to just files there for my brain (too many / with too much !Library I guess)

As for your assumption: Due to how SVN and CVS work, this approach won't work with them actually, at least not usable. They both store delta sets, not distinct changes, so they can only update full files which with binary won't work well if at all. Due to this, the inclusion of meta there does not help much as you aren't allowed to touch anything basically to transport the change (thats the thing that the Unity Pro VCS meta files solve for you as they transfer per file relationships. They still don't merge well but unlike the meta in the library, they are not cryptical which prevents you from bringing the meta in relation to its file)
GIT and Mercurial work better in this scenario though I would expect that even they get into situations where a change "fucks it up all" especially if you don't do small local commits on a very regular base (after each successful change or nearly like that)

[chbfiv]

I updated my post to reflect your comments. Thanks=) *sadly couldn't change the title.

[Seon]

We use Unity Asset Server for all of our projects across all of our teams that use Unity, and we use Perforce for our non Unity projects. Asset Server, though young and missing some elements like branching, really rocks.

Having a solution that runs inside Unity is 1000000% better than any external solution. Its fast, its easy to use and understand, and doesn't require checking in our out. It works beautifully with the intended Unity workflow.

I hope Unity invest even more resources and $$$ into making Asset Server an even better solution for us.

[chbfiv]

I don't think exaggeration helps your point, just proves your bias. It looks like they took git, hid the internals, created a GUI, charged you $500 (per person? who knows), and laughed all the way to the bank. All that time they could have been working on features that improved their product instead of creating things that already exist (lots of solid options) and charging their users for it. No offense. Greedy.

[dreamora]

Right, the $500 are per seat on top of Unity Pro

Also one of the major drawbacks was ignored: You must host the box yourself on a vdedicated / dedicated machine.
This means that you not only pay a premium fee for the technology, you will also pay an order of a magnitude more per year on the server to host it with a reasonably bandwidth, to maintain the box and at worst to pay the traffic.

And all that for something thats unhappily barely supported, the AS got a single update the past 2.x years, from AS 1.x to 2.0. This did not add any new feature and although reported several dozen times and although the release happened many months ago, UT has still not fixed the Windows installer of the AS for example which is hilarious. (you can work around the installer prob though, as I posted the instructions on how to do it)


The AS licenses, at the current feature and support level, would make sense if they were in the $100 - $200 range and available to all licenses, so they can become an option to non-pro users and mixed remote teams. There I would see them fit in.
That way it would pretty surely also generate more money and hopefully justify some more dedicated support in this field.

[Seon]

Bias? No, as I said, we use Perforce as well. And I stated that AS is young and still missing important things. It's still an awesome bit of technology that integrates beautifully inside Unity. Exaggeration? Maybe.. but have you used Asset Server? Your not even commenting on its features... just its cost... and UT's subsequent greed.... which is very surprising considering considering you use Unity Free.

Anyway, each to their own. You seem way more bitter than you should be considering you seem to have found a free solution. And considering it's for Unity Free, which means you have spent $0 on this tech, I am not sure why feel the need to call Unity greedy at all.

And calling someone or greedy and prefacing it with No Offence... that's just even more offensive (not for me though.. it's my birthday today, so nothing you can call me is going to upset me).

Your turn...

[chbfiv]

Not trying to upset you. Happy Birthday=)

We also plan on purchasing the full Android version after we finish testing out Unity. Which is why it is good that they have a free version; otherwise we might not have purchased anything. I was only pointing out your "1000000% better" exaggeration because it is a fallacy that is used to gain weight in a conversation (for example, I've seen a million movies so I know more about movies than you.) I personally argue that its not better and if you want to know why you can learn more about Git; http://git-scm.com/ or a hand full of other SCM's out there that have been around the block and back.

I'm happy for your source control integration, but don't blame Unity when your data is corrupted and you spend more time working on the SCM than the product. =)

[Seon]

I know, its all cool :-)

[Macguffin]

This is excellent stuff, thanks. It's finally forcing me to try GIT, which isn't a bad thing either.

[pakfront]

Sounds like it would work well with git on Dropbox too. Thanks!

[dreamora]

sounds like overkill.
either use git or use dropbox but pushing git through dropbox means a massive amount of datasync (don't even try it for unity projects unless you have DP Pro 50 at least)

[pakfront]

Oh. Is git more heavy on datasync than CVS or SVN? Or is it a Unity specific issue (working with binary assets rather than just text files) that makes it so heavy?

[pakfront]

Ah, I did a bit of experimenting and it seems that using git in 'Shared Repository Mode' has git pack everything into a single compressed file. Which, as you say, is terrible for Dropbox.
http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/s...migration.html

[ouchie]

I've been using git for non unity projects for a while and haven't looked back (at cvs, svn). I hear a bit of talk about Asset Server and paying for a dedicated machine and such. If you guys just want to use git as a free option I highly recommend you check out www.assembla.com for hosting your git repo. About a year ago I looked at different git hosting sites and Assembla was the only site that allowed free, private git hosting with unlimited repos for unlimited users. They also have commercial options & extras for bigger projects but I've found their free options perfect for me. Highly recommend.

[meroon]

I used the .gitignore exactly and when I cloned my project to another machine all of the asset links were broken. Any idea why this would be happening?

[dreamora]

you did not include all that was needed.
without pro and vcs enabled the library folder is crucial for asset relationships

[meroon]

so do I need to include the entire Library folder then?