Pro Tile vs Tile Ed

Posted: 07:08 PM 2 Weeks Ago
ProTile
Tile Ed

Has anyone used both?
Or either?

I am interested the following things.

Ease of use
Performance of results.
Ability to import / export a map at run time (I don't care if I have to write it, but can it be done).
End user map building.

Ability to make complex prefab tiles, like doors, traps, pits, water tiles, lava etc.

Also interested in your opinion of the source code if provided, and the support.

I have to buy a copy for two developers each, so I want to know my stuff before I pay.

Thanks for your help,

 

nice thread, i too am shopping for one of these...


( need to finish filling in pros / cons )

Tile Ed $25 USD
Rating: 39@4/5
Website: http://plyoung.com
Asset Store: https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/#/content/4194
Forum Page: http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/148235-UniRPG
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTE_yJuNslg

Pros:
+ Includes Full Source Code

Cons:


proTile Map Editor $50 USD
Rating: 7@4/5
Website: http://protilemapeditor.com/
Asset Store: https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/#/content/11698
Forum Page: http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/203107-RELEASED-proTile-Map-Editor
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcClhOo1J6I

Pros:
+ Includes Full Source Code

Cons:


ReactEd Tiles $50 USD
Rating: 0@?/5
Website: http://www.reactgames.com/RTILE.html
Asset Store: https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/#/content/14708
Forum Page: ?
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLGMKRu0qoY

Pros:
+ Includes Full Source Code
+ Support For Layers
+ Different Size Tiles

Cons:

 

nobody wants to pitch in on this?

where r the authors of these things shouldn't they be trying to sell us their products...

 

Maybe they didn't know about it , its not the support forum for their software, no alerts. I invited them via, email contact form.

 

Hello, I'm the developer for the ReactEd Tiles package. adamnorton is correct, I didn't see this until he sent an email.

Setting up tile sets and tiles is pretty simple, and the interface for painting tiles in the scene is easy too.

The results of building a map are the same as if you had manually dragged your tile prefabs into the scene. There aren't any extra components that need to be attached to your tile prefabs.

Yes, that can be done. The API to get and set tiles can be used at run time.

Yep.

Not a problem, since the tiles are just prefab references.

I'm sure I'm biased on that point, but I'd be happy to help with any issues that come up.

 

@ Plattinator

re: ReactEd Tiles

can your editor be used on flat map without edges or perhaps with edges and walls like these, where _ is the tile and \ / | the generated edges


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@ Plattinator @proandrius

i hate buying something and then it goes on sale, so will your editor be on sale within the next month or so?



re: runtime

ability to procedurally generate maps using seed / rules at runtime is important


re: complex map

what about multi floor buildings made from tiles so u have to be able to do different floors, ceilings, walls, stairs, doors, windows, roofs, ect... and layer them on on top of the other...

can any of these file based editors handle things like ceilings for 1st/3rd person games or it is just for topdown so basically its used to generate caves, dungeons, buildings, ect.

and then with doors, windows, hanging from walls and ceiling props like lights

 

ok thanks

do u support

ceilings so it can be used in and for 1st/3rd person games

and layers so it can be used to generate multifloor structures including putting up ceiling hanging lights and like steps so u can go between layers and ceiling and floor holes so u can put stairs ladders to between layers

and runtime procedural generation?

 

Code (csharp):

1. where r the authors of these things shouldn't they be trying to sell us their products

I casually browse this forum maybe once a month, so I would not see this thread if someone did not inform me about it. Best is to ask questions in the threads made for products as we can set those to send email notifications when someone post in 'em.

Tile Ed.

>> Ease of use
Depends on the user. I could say it is easy to use, but what does that really mean?
Best to look at the vids to see how things are set up and how maps are painted.

>> Performance of results.
Tiles are game objects, so performance depends on same thing it would depend if you where to place them manually. No mesh combine, atlas making or auto collider generator thing in the tool - if that is what you are asking.

>> Ability to import / export a map at run time (I don't care if I have to write it, but can it be done).
Tiles are GameObject under a parent object so you can make the whole map object a prefab.

>> End user map building.
Tile placement code is in the runtime side but you will have to build your own editor interface to communicate with it.

>> Ability to make complex prefab tiles, like doors, traps, pits, water tiles, lava etc.
A tile is a prefab. The system do not care what the prefab looks like. Keep in mind that the tile should fit into a specific sized grid. Of course you can have overlaps and such if it makes sense for your design.

>> Also interested in your opinion of the source code if provided, and the support.
source provided

ps. if you have more questions about Tile Ed, please ask in the thread I made for it.
All docs and vids are available on the first page of the thread.

Tile Ed forum entry >> http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/148235-UniRPG

 

This is a really interesting thread

I'd love to hear your thoughts

 

I would like to thank all the product developers for responding. All of your tools look amazing, and there are features that I want from each,
and I am trying to pick one that is going to fit my needs.

The original intent was to hear from people that have tried them. But I thought its really only fair you get a voice too.
Although I have watch the videos from each of yours and read your forum posts , repeatedly for all things in fact.

I think for indie games, content is king. We can have a novel idea but unless there content no one will see that novel idea.
(I know there are exceptions like Flappy Birds lol) But in a small indie team there simply is not enough time or personal
to hand craft the environment. Like Skyrim for example.

So procedural generated content, user created content and really good tools such as yours.
We will probably be purchasing it around the 28th, when we get paid from the dull business programming job that we use to pay the bills.

Hopefully that will give some more time for users to add to the discussion.

 

Would it be possible to have several "maps" each one as a separate "level" in the same level.
This way level 0 is the ground, level one "floor" could be the ceiling of the other. (different tilesets idea - house roof, another level, etc)
Negative levels for pitts, underwater etc)

Maybe a level/map manager.
Where you could hide/show the level by adding a script to the map gameobject.

Code (csharp):

1.  
2. using UnityEngine;
3. using System.Collections;
4.  
5. [ExecuteInEditMode]
6. public class HideInEditor : MonoBehaviour {
7.    
8.     public bool Visible
9.     void OnEnable () {
10.        renderer.enabled = Visible;
11.     }
12.  
13.     void OnDisable () {
14.        renderer.enabled = Visible;
15.     }
16. }

Just a thought, figured it might work with minimal code change for an editor developer.

 

Basically I am thinking this.
You could either build a 3d dungeon level

or something like this.
imagine a city.
level 0 tag as outside draw the city ground map, outside stuff etc. and the base floor of buildings (skyscrapers) - zone tag as outdoor
level 1 - X, interior of the buildings (zone tag indoor, (room / areas with access to the outside tag as indoor/outdoor) Second floor etc)
levels -1 - x sewers etc. tag as underground (water, and pits etc that can be seen from the above level as pit , hole or something.

In the editor only load levels current and below maybe hide negative levels till your current floor is negative
In game you would load by tag. if you are outside load outside indoor/outdoor levels 0 and up and anything -1 and hole.
inside load only the inside current level, and the level above and below.

Basically create events OnLevelChange(), OnZoneChange(), OnChararacterMove() and load the appropriate "tiles" for the current, level, zone, and location.

Just my thoughts on the ceiling of a level, and how far you could take my solution.

 

@proandrius

I want to use "Urban Construction Pack" https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/#/content/8081 for fps or action game

this is huge than normal tile and props

your proTile Map Editor is useful for Urban Construction ?

and I am interested in UAGK (https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/#/content/12359)

also is this useful for UAGK?

 

When I say level I meant floor / map level in a scene.

Large city, each floor a level, citywide:
Can you create groups for loading / unloading in addition to the map levels.
For example I am on level 2 of a building, I want to load levels 1, 2, 3 of the building, but in the greater scene, I am in one of hundreds of buildings, 75% have 3 or more levels, and don't want to load those.

OR

Large city, each building a separate map
Just define the shell of the building in the main map. Then load when near.
Just would want to be able to load, the rooms when you go by a window, or the outside when you go by.


Do your patterns work vertically as well as horizontally. And can you make patterns with random objects in it.
And can patterns be made out of other patterns.

Create rooms as a pattern (different classifications - office, living, manufacturing etc) and a number of them. Set them up to have randomized items, mobs, clutter, furniture what ever.

What I am thinking
Then create floors as patterns (making sure everything lines up to a basic elevator / stair layout) and using the rooms fill that floor with random rooms. Create a number of the floors as patterns. Then on to the building. using the random floor generator create a number of random buildings. then when you build the city using those.

Room Patterns like OfficeRoom1 ~ 10, ResidentialRoom 1 =10
Level Patters like OfficeFloor1 10, ResidentialFloor1 =10
Building Patterns like OfficeBuilding1 10, ResidentialBuilding1 =10

Then build the city of large city using those patterns.

Or am I just going to far and getting a crazy with the cheese wiz.

 

that looks nice, but I always get kind of annoyed when I can't go in every building I see.

I would think you build tile sets with the ground texture objects.
Connector sets with road, and ground , curb , lights etc.

The buildings would just be objects that you place on the map

 

Sure, you can do a flat map without edges. I'm not sure that I understand all of your edge/wall configurations, but you can definitely do edges/walls that are flush along the flat sides of tiles.

As far as I know, we don't have any sales planned.

Runtime generation works fine.

You could layer multiple floors on top of each other. The easiest way would be like what was mentioned above, where each floor is it's own tile map.

Ceilings can be done. Each tile is just a prefab reference, so you can do anything you want as if you were placing prefabs manually in your scene. Same with doors and windows.

 

hi

i also want to thank all the authors for taking time to come here and answer our questions.

your answers are very helpful in aiding us make an informed decision.

best regards!

 

proandrius very good sir! very good if only day have more hours and would not need to sleep I would love to play with it but probably will find time when it will go out of beta
but great news, glad to hear it keep up good work!

 

Gotta necro (revive) this thread a bit.

Was looking for a new 3D tile editor, since the one I've been using (tidy tile mapper) for a little more than a year now,
is not being updated, and I'm spending to much time "fixing" the asset. Shame really enjoyed it.

Now this thread has really helped me a lot considering a new system, except I've also thrown "Rotorz Tile System"
into consideration, haven't decided yet, but I often build levels and maps for other developers usually sidescrolling
and the 2.5D/3D tile systems really easy the work load a lot.

I'll be buying a new system by monday. Until then, I'm as usual checking youTube for tutorials and guides
since it's much faster than reading through the entire documentation, especially when working with so many
new assets each week, it's just learn by doing, or find stuff on youTube, so a lack of youTube tutorials or
other video sites, is certainly something i take in consideration.

Good thread!