Hack and Slash

Hello everyone,
I am really busy with school atm, I am in my last year
so this is in the deep freeze atm
so expect it to go a bit slower


Another thing: I'll put some recent updates here, or links to special things I posted so you do not have to go search everthing
SOON more (start with the oldest stuff)
video explaining my basic leveleditor
weird seams in the lightmap
small tut on max viewport canvas
video tut handpainted weapon


and more stuff, like
things i learned and I should remember:
-when coding is not going well, take a break and do something else instead of trying to fix it all day, high chance you see it immediately the next day
-give your assets a prefix name in unity, when you create a terrain with 200 tiles that start with the letter a, and 100 with the letter j, they get all messed up in your scene folder
proper prefixes like terrain_, or env_ help a lot
-try to make a little drawing or paint first, or have a clear idea before starting on an item
-plan more, but don't stare at your screen thinking what to do next, write it down, and use a timer
do not be scared to try things out
-make backups, and make more backups, I once almost lost my whole project
-...

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Hey
I am making a unity game
working title Hack and Slash
it's a Hack and Slash duuuh
think torchlight, diablo, bastion, ...
now i am working on a 3d tilebased leveleditor
i already made 1 kind of stone tiles
the level editor already works very basicly
coded it in 2 days

also already have a few ingame models,
but most of them need new texture, or are to ugly for in the game
this project started as a small school project
the most important thing was that it worked, and that the code was okay
so i moddeled all the assets on the last day just to fill the game

now i have 2 months vacation
so planning to finish this project

here are some screenshots:
this was what i submitted for school

like you see it's really basic

started doodling a bit, concept art

made him in 3d (model texture uv skin, the whole thing)




here some updates on the texture


this texture is grey, i use self illumination and colored lights

here is a screenshot of the leveleditor


a bit info about the code:
almost everything is costum code
i think the only prefab i use is the charactercontroller
i made a movescript, character script , and then every unit in game has the same scripts, or inheritance scripts
this way it's easy to control
i am a artist, not a real programmer, so the code is probably dirty
but it works

hope you like it
i work everyday on it and hope to finish a demo as soon as possible

 

I like the Art Style. Looks really good.

 

Is impressive how Unity's grass and terrain ruins any good work.
The art is amazing, but that terrain and grass just kills the whole thing.

 

I agree.

 

Very nice!

 

Need any help?

 

The model and texture work looks great, well done so far!

 

Sounds like me... Feel free to pm me with problems, or needing a talk...

I'm thinking about kind of particles for grass...

 

i know the grass is ugly,
the terrain and models in the first picture are really ugly
but it was done with a very tight deadline, where the code was more important
thats why I am redoing the art now
i now started with the rocks,
level 1 is supposed to be grass but I will first make a rock level
I think that is easier
Planning to ditch the grass for just tiles, with a grass texture

i have a small question
when i have my level editor, it is supposed to do a few things when selecting deselecting a gameobject
(it's a editor script)
when i click on a gameobject in the scene
my leveleditor window only updates when i click on it
is it possible to make it update without clicking on it (read refreshing the gui, since everything is in the onGUI function)

 

When I first saw this Thread, I thought you were referring to the popular Unity beginners' YouTube based tutorial. Evidently not.

 

Very nice project....very impressive... if you need animations fro your character just let me know...regards

 

I wanted to make this my own game, but i think it will be bigger if other people work on it
and then i can focus more on the 3d and gamedesign
so it might be a (very) good idea

animators and sound-guys are always welcome
for 3d and coding
i don't know if i should include other people
since i might be the only one who understands the code, and if someone else helps, and then he drops out, i have a problem
for 3d, if you can match the style close
then you can always join
so create something that you think fits the game
prop, texture, ...
and post it here
or post a link to one of your works
i can teach people a little bit of my style of working, but not much since I am still learning myself, making a lot of mistakes, and i need the time
so i can give you tips on improving for example your handpainted texture
but i cant do that if your modeling and texturing skills are still very basic
or to far from the game
(o and this might be obvious but
be able to speak / write basic English or dutch)
i always say what i think so if i sound rude, bear with it
I expect the same from everyone here in this topic
i don't get offended if you say my work sucks, or should be improved
but tell me what is bad, or what to improve

I'll release this game for free
so if you want to work on it, don't expect money
of course, your name shows up in the credits

for the animation i made 2 characters with costum rigs
since it's yet only two there is still a chance to switch to biped

so if anyone is interested to join, post or pm

also if you don't want to join but you think i should put THAT in the game
just post THAT and maybe you'll see it in the game
the more feedback i get, the cooler it will be

i hope to get an alpha as fast as possible

update on the project:
whole day of coding
added more stuff to the leveleditor
now i can work, exit unity, start up again, load the grid , and continue on the same grid instead of recreating one everytime
also lots of security updates, there were still some bugs in it that sometimes tiles got stuck in each other, or didn't move right
so now i have to add the other meshes
also he now auto updates al his tile types
so if you add new tiletypes, no additional code is required to use them
he finds the paths himself, as long as you use the correct names (tile_type_name)
also added filter on prefix, suffix, and word when adding to grid
add single planes to grid
add whole selection based on location
give user control over the tile size
random rotate planes

now i am almost at the point where i can introduce new tiles(corners , sides, ...)
and auto fill the map with them

hope you had fun reading all of this ^^
cya

 

I like the art you have there. Did you need the full version of unity to make the tile editor you have there?

 

everything is made in the free version of unity
just look here for getting started
i never did this before and after a day messing with it i already had a basic version
http://docs.unity3d.com/Documentation/Components/gui-ExtendingEditor.html
have fun

update on the project:
been coding all day , again
one day more work then i thought it would take to get to this point
here is a screenshot

 

I second that!

 

i have a question
is it possible to know when an object is deleted using the delete key
and what would be the best way to capture keys
i use javascript, and menushortcuts only work with an active window

status: the level editor auto fills up the sides now
and also when i press the delete button
but not yet when i delete with the delete key on the keyboard

 

update: starting to throw a few things in unity

 

Feels like Torchlight.
So interesting Tile Editor. Would it be commercial?

 

well if your interested , i could put it in the asset store
might make a vid about it on youtube
i'll keep you updated

here's some more progress

 

looks like torchlight, i mean nice

 

here is a little video i put together about my level editor

 

hey, i am trying to make a better shader then the one i use now
i want to add emission but i cant figure it out
if anyone has a clue please help me
i am exploring google, unity, the tutorials on surface shader etc
if anyone knows another good site where they have info

the code below works but doesnt do what i want
now its a texture + color tint + color tint
i want texture + color tint + emissive color

Code (csharp):

1. Shader "Custom/test" {
2.     Properties {
3.         _MainTex ("Base (RGB)", 2D) = "white" {}
4.       _ColorTint ("Tint", Color) = (1.0, 0.6, 0.6, 1.0)
5.       _EmissionTint ("Tint", Color) = (1.0, 0.6, 0.6, 1.0)
6.     }
7.     SubShader {
8.         Tags { "RenderType"="Opaque" }
9.         LOD 200
10.        
11.         CGPROGRAM
12.         //#pragma surface surf Lambert finalcolor:mycolor
13.         //------------------
14.           #pragma surface surf SimpleLambert finalcolor:mycolor  emissioncolor:mycolor2
15.  
16.       half4 LightingSimpleLambert (SurfaceOutput s, half3 lightDir, half atten) {
17.           half NdotL = dot (s.Normal, lightDir);
18.           half4 c;
19.           c.rgb = s.Albedo * _LightColor0.rgb * (NdotL * atten * 2);
20.           c.a = s.Alpha;
21.           return c;
22.       }
23.       //--------------------------
24.  
25.         struct Input {
26.             float2 uv_MainTex;
27.         };
28.         fixed4 _ColorTint;
29.         void mycolor (Input IN, SurfaceOutput o, inout fixed4 color)
30.         {
31.           color *= _ColorTint;
32.         }
33.         fixed4 _EmissionTint;
34.         void mycolor2 (Input IN, SurfaceOutput o, inout fixed4 color)
35.         {
36.           color *= _EmissionTint; //why cant i say    emission*= _EmissionTint;
37.         }
38.         sampler2D _MainTex;
39.         void surf (Input IN, inout SurfaceOutput o) {
40.             half4 c = tex2D (_MainTex, IN.uv_MainTex); //he uses the uv to decide wat he needs to use from the texture
41.             o.Albedo = tex2D (_MainTex, IN.uv_MainTex).rgb;
42.             //o.Albedo = c.rgb; //output color
43.             o.Alpha = c.a; //output aplha
44.             //o.Emission = tex2D (_EmisionTint, IN.uv_MainTex).rgb; //why doesnt this work
45.         }
46.         ENDCG
47.     }
48.     FallBack "Diffuse" //if the shader does not work, use the diffuse shader
49. }
50.  

 

woa i love your texturing.

 

man i was so lucky
just when i posted my previous post, i found something very usefull about emissive on the unity example shader lighting thread
and half hour later, shader started to come together, but had a problem that he always did emissive, even when it was off
deleted that part of the code, it still was emissive
i forgot to tone down ambient in the render settings -__-
wasted so much time on that hah

okay i think i understand shaders a little bit better now
i found out how to make the shader i needed
so now i have the same shader as before , but instead of vertexlit, it's surface lite
that gives round circles around the lights, instead of square/tris circles
but now i have a new problem
artifacts between tiles
does anyone know how to solve this?


edit:
so i was googling and i found a few things that it might have to do with my texture setting
so i want to change that but i don't have a texture inspector
why is that?
i use dds files as texture
when i select the texture in the project view,
i see a small example in the inspector, and i can also see mipmaps and alphachannel
but nothing else
is this a pro only option?

edit2:
Beast LM bleeds through open edges. Try to create meshes with no open edges
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....
source

okay so i saw somewhere a tile editor with the option to weld vertexes
i gues i ll have to write another script
if anyone can come up with a solution feel free to post

edit3: i just remembered that when you have more than 5 (if i'm not mistaken) lights one the same mesh, he won't render the other lights
so i cant put all the tiles in 1 mesh and close the seams
also , when the tile has only 1 light on it, there is no seem, it's only when 2 or more lights, 'light' the tile

edit4 : found out i can disable the bleeding when i turn vertex lit of in the shader
he uses a lightmap for the first light, and vertex lit for the second
so now he just breaks of the light and renders only 1 light
lets so if i can change that

 

so i want a surface shader without seams
but it's not working that good
there also seems to be a difference between the self illumination from unity and mine
but on a closer look
the self illumin from unity is softer
when i duplicate my light to increase the intensity a lot (for testing)
i also see seams
but it's still better then my shaders
also found out that turning ambient higher, and main color lower, decreases seam visibility
but makes the shadows lighter

 

after a whole day of messing with shaders, i was ready to give up and just use default ill
then decided to take a look at the default shader
why didn't i do that before ...
i had "my own" lambert shading, from the example of unity
but the built in uses, like most shaders, the default lambert
so whn i put my shader on default, it looks just like the self illumination from unity, but with a little more control for the shadows
kinda happy now

 

found how to eleminate the seams completely
this does it for me:
"Did you try increasing the pixel light count value in Edit->Project settings->Quality. test with some bigger numbers like 32 or 64 and bake"
source

 

heres a screengrab with a skillbar painted on it

 

This looks really awesome! I wish I could help out.

 

Sent you a PM.

 

like i said before
if you want to help post what you do etc
read previous post
if you doubt your skills
just wait
i will need beta testers, and i think that's the most fun job there is
so just follow this thread, post in it, or apply for a position
even the slightest thing, such as a little post (have you considered X...)
could make the game a hundred times better

if you want to, post what you want to do, and why you could do it
wishing wont get you anywhere in life

responded on your pm

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i have a question
when i have a mesh in a prefab, lets say mesh "bob" in prefab "bobfab"
when i place 10 bobs on the screen, and then put those 10 bobs in 1 prefab "bibbobfab"
will the "bigbobfab" take significant more space on my computer?
i think not, since prefabs are like only a few kb
but asking can't hurt
also if you know some more things about spawning and placing/saving map pieces

i was first thinking of genreating a maze or dungeon
but now i think i'll create spawnrooms
that is, i create a room, put that in a prefab, and when i place that prefab on the screen
it places the room on the screen
the room is made of random pieces
like let's say i create a room
i start creating floor props and monsters
now instead of that
i create floorspawners, propspawners and mobspawners
so i place a mobspawner on the location where the monster should be , and it creates a random monster
instead of always the same one

any thoughts on this are welcome

 

You might want to do this semi-random. Like minecraft, it basicly only saves the seed and things the player has changed. Other than that, it will always create the same terrain on the same seed, but every seed is completely different. Not sure how dynamic your setup is and all, but you might consider a similar approach

 

I think that a health bar in the head of the enemy will be the best. If you pretend to battle more than one enemy for battle.
In this way, like Skyrim, it will show only the current life bar.

Is just a suggestion.

 

but when you have to fight hundreds of enemys at the same time
the screen will get messy with all the hp bars
the hp of mobs isn't that important
only for bosses it helps to know how much hp they have
but the average mob is just there to be killed to make the player feel stronger
i could give an option in the option menu for hp bars above the head
this is more of an mmorpg thing
if you look at arpg's like titan quest, or diablo
they use 1 bar

 

i submitted the tile map editor for the asset store
it's free
so don't expect costumer support
i hope someone can use it

(it's still pending so might be a while, or they might refuse it )
or get it here
https://rapidshare.com/files/3916149536/tilecreator.rar
ps: it's full of viruses ,worms, horses
and horses with worms

 

Wow! That art style is beautiful. Is there a name for that drawing style? I would love to learn how to do it myself.

 

update on project:
made my first room
its a empty room with lots of stairs
dunno yet with the spawning, have been researching for a few hours but i think i'll wait with starting coding it and make some rooms by hand first
i want to finish at least 1 level,
else i 'll end up with something big but not finished
also fixed some animations
started modelling the stonehand for my hero
added new animations
and fixed the walk in the game (now i can click somewhere and i walk to the place, i forgot some {} somewhere and that made it stop walking, took a while to figure out where that was between my thousand lines of code)
anyway it's fixed now so I'm happy.
also watched a few videos of games to look at the attack animations
and i noticed mine are way to slow

okay so whats up next:
finish up my hero
i now have a basic level (even if it's unfinished, i have at least 1 screen that looks decent)
so it's time to finish the character

then next write the gui system
skills, hp, mp, (map , quest, inventory, ...is for later, i'll start just with what is on screen, and maybe a test skilltree)

next at least 1 enemy, including animation etc
i have 1 enemy, but the texture is not fine
and another enemy has no animations
so let's fix that, and create at least 1 new enemy that fits the mine enviroment

then more enviroment
then more weapons, armor moddeling etc
inventory, lootdrop, gold, pots, scrolls, ...

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thx, it looks like most handpainted textures out there
just google stylized handpainted texture or something like that
(it helps if you can paint/speedpaint well to do this kind of thing)

ps: is there a playable demo of
your game "it's raining zombies"?

 

You are using the grid to walk? Or just walk to the point clicked?
I'm not talking about pathfinding. I want to know how do you are locating the character in the ground.

 

This could help you:
http://www.smileybones.com/2010/03/17/tutorial-01-hand-painted-textures/

@Dhaiku, do you use mouse, or a pen tablet? If a pen tablet, what?

 

i use raycast to walk
when they hit the tiles, they look for the tag terrain
if they hit with terrain, they store that location as a target, and walks to the target
when he doesn't move from the same spot for 5 frames, he is stuck and stops walking, when you click on an enemy the enemys position is the target
and if the enemy moves, the target moves

i use a wacom tablet intuos 4 , but i used to have a wacom bamboo
trust me if I tell you this, it doesn't matter what size your tablet is, as long as it is sensitive enough
all the tablets wacom makes are sensitive enough
i thought there would be a world of difference between intuos and bamboo, but it really wasn't that much
in the end it just depends on you, how you see colors etc
i bet feng zhu can paint better with a mouse then i can with a cintiq

 

Just wanted to drop by and say that I really really love all the screenies I am seing. This will be top notch when done!

 

first i start with something in my mind, and if i don't have anything, i make some quick concept art
nothing fancy
just enough that it is readable and i can work with it if i for some reason should have to drop it for a week
an example is on the first page, second screenshot , the engineer guy

then i model it, and see if i can enhance things, like make his hands way bigger, or increase the silhouet
i have to remember that i look at the model from top view, and far away
i often have to redo texture work because i painted to small details
now i kinda have a grasp on what size it has to be, and i also use small textures, to prevent myself from painting to much detail

then i UV it, i try to mirror uv as much as possible
when i have lots of free uv space left, i use the same texture for another small item

then when it's done uving
i render my uv layout
i put that in photoshop as top layer on screen modus
i make a new empty layer under it
save it as nameoftheprop.psd
i go in 3ds max
aply a material on it with the psd in it so that if i make changes in the psd it updates in max

i paint in 3dsmax
under tools>viewport canvas
if you click that it opens a paint tool
then i start painting,
there are 2 ways i use
1) i start painting black and white
2) i start with a color blockout
i prefer black and white most of the time
since i tend to use to much colors

i might make a video about it

 

Thank you.

I've found a few more if anyone else would like

Tutorials:
http://wiki.polycount.com/CategoryConceptFundamentals
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/175/0/2/TUTORIAL___How_to_paint_rocks_by_navybluestar.jpg
http://wiki.polycount.com/TexturingTutorials#Painting_Stylistic_Textures

Examples:
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89131
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88996
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3G1b1Cnmxc

Thanks for the start! Going to look into getting a tablet also.

I haven't finished my game completely yet, another two weeks and I hope to have all the bugs sorted out. The controls are with two joysticks on a touchscreen but I can get a modified version out to work on the Webplayer. If you have a Twitter account, you can follow me @RainingZombies or I'll send you a PM on here when I finish the game.

 

Dhaiku, you´re an gifted artist.

Those handpaint textures tuts are great!

I´m making a bit of programing for an RPG, you can check a video of it´s features here:
http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/142699-Why-can%B4t-I-post-on-the-forum?p=976004#post976004

If anyone want any code of it, just let me know. It´d be a plesure to share.

 

Nagas, sent you a PM. Olha la!

 

Just saw it. Acabei de ver;

Here´s the link for my project:
http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/147030-MMO-RPG-TicTacNator-scripting-WIP

 

finished my hero DONE
writing gui system
opening inventory, quest, characterscreen, skilltree, 3d inventory DONE
drag and drop skillbar, and inventory DONE
hero animations quality increase + upgraded hero model imported in unity + new materials DONE
now the function (inventory drag and drop items from floor, to equiped, to skillbar ...

 

added his big stone hand
new textures
improved animation and skinning
(normals of 1 boot are flipped, already fixed that but not yet imported in unity, gonna wait till i have some more new animations)

added hp and mp orbs, they work
when you kill an enemy you get exp, you can lvl up (nothing happens when yo udo, BUT.... you can lvl up!)
fixed the idle animation not working
fixed a few running mistakes
added inventory filter, now you can't place items in your skillbar

found a few new ones: when holding rightclick while running, you freeze when you idle, until you release mouse
the enemy prefab stopped attacking me for some reason
gonna have to look into that

also still have to disable raycast when clicking somewhere on the gui

 

Looking great!

 

gui update:
the inventory, skilltab, 3d char inventory