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    Thunder Force IV Rebirth

    A spin-off of this wonderful video game:













    Webplayer
    Last edited by wondersonic; 03-14-2012 at 09:46 PM.


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    This looks very good, I love the starting music! Also I don't know if it was the video but the sfx had a lot of noise at some point. Also,The ship needs to shoot something! Keep it up!
    Salim - Game Designer
    Current Project: flyingcarpetsgames.com | Portfolio: salimnoatelier.com


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salim View Post
    Also I don't know if it was the video but the sfx had a lot of noise at some point.
    It is a known issue related to the capture tool.

    Quote Originally Posted by Salim View Post
    Also,The ship needs to shoot something! Keep it up!
    Indeed, in the second level!

    Thanks

    Cheers!
    WS
    Last edited by wondersonic; 03-04-2012 at 10:05 AM.



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    Wow looks great.

    I can't think of any side scrolling shooters that go from right to left. very unique.


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    You can't link html files like that from google code. You need to use Dropbox. It's free and works for what you're trying to do.



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    Hehe pretty cool, love the asteroid field.
    Although where is the skill involved? Seems like u just fly into everything?


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    You got to try it yourself (see the webplayer link above)

    Skill involved: your shield power decreases over time + it takes time to reload (check the shield color) + asteroid movement are random...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salim View Post
    Also,The ship needs to shoot something!
    Done now! ;D


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    Version 0.0.13 just deployed! See webplayer in the first post:

    Second level WIP:

    1st part done at 75%:



    2nd part at 40%:



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    version 0.0.14 released (see webplayer link above)


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    this looks great! If it weren't a remake I'd buy it in a heartbeat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OmniverseProductions View Post
    this looks great! If it weren't a remake I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
    By "remake" I mean: I already developped the first 3.1 levels (3rd never finished: too ambitious) in Java/OpenGL but with Unity3D it is ways faster! I just remade the 2 first levels in 2 months instead of 10!

    Also this is a spin-off occuring at the very end of the original video game! This is a complete new game with gameplay, musics and graphics inspirations.


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    Oh ok, thank you for the clarification on that.


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    Looks really promising. Really! I will be following the development of your game, Wonder.

    A few comments

    The good:
    - The music
    - The visuals
    - The sound FX
    - The wow factor (even if it's at an early stage)
    - Shield management for solid obstacles.
    - Right to left.Left to right. I like it.
    - I could go on for awhile like that.

    The bad:
    - While the asteroid field gameplay works well (shield conservation vs.use at the right time) it's too repetitive. I can see, as a level by itself, this gameplay last for maybe 30 seconds, with waves coming at the ship instead of a constant rain of rock, and then, you know, more and more near the end until it's like it is right now. But I'd do it progressively. And why not during a regular mission?
    - Ship speed a bit too fast? (you probably planed on having speed upgrades, but still)
    - The fact that you can go that much lower and above the main screen height makes you lose track of the center of the screen. (more of a problem in level 2 I'd say.)
    - You should go for some shooting in level 1 too to serve as a shooting tutorial.
    - While I know you are not done with other levels, Level 2 is way too fast IMO. You don't have time to see the threats and the blocked off paths + for a speedy type of sequence like that, I wouldn't allow the ship to go above/below the main screen height. This would help a lot for judging where the ship is on screen vs. the world and you could still do very tight branching paths/obstacle avoidance.
    - If you really want the ship to go that fast, why not a slow down button for tricky maneuvers?

    Bugs:
    - I reached the planet at the end of level 1, and I was confined in the upper right corner with no other option but to try and shield my way through the planet only to see I can't get past it. I died a few times and then an entrance suddenly appeared at the bottom and the ship was automatically taken inside of it.

    Keep up the good work, Wonder!

    MQ
    Last edited by MoonQuake; 02-28-2012 at 01:42 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonQuake View Post
    Looks really promising. Really! I will be following the development of your game, Wonder.

    A few comments

    The good:
    - The music
    - The visuals
    - The sound FX
    - The wow factor (even if it's at an early stage)
    - Shield management for solid obstacles.
    - Right to left.Left to right. I like it.
    - I could go on for awhile like that.
    Well, thank you very much, encouragments are always welcome

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonQuake View Post
    The bad:
    - While the asteroid field gameplay works well (shield conservation vs.use at the right time) it's too repetitive. I can see, as a level by itself, this gameplay last for maybe 30 seconds, with waves coming at the ship instead of a constant rain of rock, and then, you know, more and more near the end until it's like it is right now. But I'd do it progressively. And why not during a regular mission?
    Progressively, why not. I'll have a think about it! However, you didn't mention the fun part of this stage. Do you know what I'm talking about?

    Also I would like to hear your ideas to make this level less repetitive. I've got some ideas as some kind of "giant rotating donut" asteroid invincible that you must pass by flying through the hole. I thought also previously of a comet that would come from the background to cross the screen. Of course you would need to avoid it by going in one of the our corner...

    And since this is the place where some space pirats are hiding maybe some space mine could also help.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonQuake View Post
    - Ship speed a bit too fast? (you probably planed on having speed upgrades, but still)
    In the second level, right? Indeed, speed control has been recently implemented.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonQuake View Post
    - The fact that you can go that much lower and above the main screen height makes you lose track of the center of the screen. (more of a problem in level 2 I'd say.)
    Yes, for common layout as first level, this is on purpose. But for the second one, I've been struggling to find some "easy to implement" way to make these camera movements less anoying. I finally found a solution again thanks to Unity3D. You can find it in the last release (0.0.15) uploaded few minutes ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonQuake View Post
    - You should go for some shooting in level 1 too to serve as a shooting tutorial.
    I've been talked to do so, so the "escape capsule" has now a blaster that was missing in the very first implementation in Java/OpenGL (see webplayer html page for controls).

    But again, if you have some 3D/2D models/sprites that you think could make sens in this "asteroid field and space pirats hideout" context, please advise

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonQuake View Post
    - While I know you are not done with other levels, Level 2 is way too fast IMO. You don't have time to see the threats and the blocked off paths + for a speedy type of sequence like that, I wouldn't allow the ship to go above/below the main screen height. This would help a lot for judging where the ship is on screen vs. the world and you could still do very tight branching paths/obstacle avoidance.
    You better try the new version and tell me. With camera consistency, I think speed is no more an issue. Also the point of this first part of this second level is indeed the speed which is also enhanced by the original game opening theme (but rearranged).

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonQuake View Post

    - If you really want the ship to go that fast, why not a slow down button for tricky maneuvers?
    This is a very good idea. But too early in the game. I know that with the possibility of Unity3D it would take almost no time. (also playing with music pitch ).

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonQuake View Post

    Bugs:
    - I reached the planet at the end of level 1, and I was confined in the upper right corner with no other option but to try and shield my way through the planet only to see I can't get past it. I died a few times and then an entrance suddenly appeared at the bottom and the ship was automatically taken inside of it.
    "This is not a bug, this is a feature" as would say a friend. Indeed, you'll learn this trick in the first stage. There is always a good way to go on. Here, it was to avoid aasteroids going from the top (this changes at the end of the level) then since you can't beat the pirat asteroid... go where you can and wait for the cable to take you in the asteroid.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonQuake View Post

    Keep up the good work, Wonder!

    MQ
    Certainly!

    Stay tuned!!!

    WS


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    So...

    version 0.0.15 released (see webplayer link above)


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    Regarding the final scene of the first stage, I'll review some colliders to avoid being able to fly through the green asteroid ) Thanks!


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    Played the latest version. 0.0.15.

    I didn't realize you had a speed modifier key. It didn't seem to do anything in the first level so I ignored it.

    Progressively, why not. I'll have a think about it! However, you didn't mention the fun part of this stage. Do you know what I'm talking about?
    Yeah, a few asteroids at first, then more and more... you could have some asteroids come one by one too, these could be faster to test your reflexes.

    The fun part? Well, avoiding ast., trying to hit the gold one or entering the planet? I didn't see any other "feature".

    Also I would like to hear your ideas to make this level less repetitive.
    All your ideas are good, but I would also add enemy ships to shoot! That's less repetitive. There could be some attached to asteroids that detach when you destroy. the ast.. OR they could be hidden inside ast. ( I got A LOT more ideas, but I don't want to flood the message hehe, maybe we should talk on skype or something if you are interested)

    I've been talked to do so, so the "escape capsule" has now a blaster that was missing in the very first implementation in Java/OpenGL (see webplayer html page for controls). But again, if you have some 3D/2D models/sprites that you think could make sens in this "asteroid field and space pirats hideout" context, please advise
    You could start by just duplicating the player ship to use as enemies (if I understood correctly, you don't have sprites for enemies?) After, you can make actual enemy pirate ships. (It's easy to do actually... how did you implement the player ship? did you make it yourself?)
    When I said, maybe add some shooting in level 1, I meant enemies to shoot at.

    LEVEL 1 planet at the end:
    If the player is at the top of the screen, he'll try to go around the planet from above. This is where I got stuck. Maybe make the planet bigger and assure that the player can only go downwards and the enter then planet from there.
    then since you can't beat the pirate asteroid
    I didn't see any pirate ast. Was it the one that went fast from the top? If so, it just looked like some lost ast. that tried to crash on me.

    LEVEL 2: corridors at an angle are too hard to do. You can't go up or down fast enough. MAYBE it has to do with the ships speed adjustment? Honestly, I can't tell what speed my ship is at. Maybe make it a slow OR fast toggle... just 2 speeds. You know, and if you're in fast mode, the thrusters are of a different color and bigger?

    LAST NOTE: where did you get the music for all levels? One sounds like it's from duke nukem 3d??

    Again, I got a lot of suggestions and ideas that would improve your game enormously, in term of game flow and design. If you are interested, just PM me.
    Last edited by MoonQuake; 02-29-2012 at 08:27 PM.

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